I dont believe in KARMA.

Joviel: I dont believe in karma.

Pete: why?

Joviel: Cos the world is just not fair. You need to believe that reality is fair and just in order to believe in karma you know.

Pete: But isnt it precisely becos the reality is unfair that's why people choose to believe in karma?

Joviel: Isnt that a kind of delusion then? and not reality....

Pete: Are you implyin that your God is not real? You believe in him dont you? And he's not really there to punish the bad guys now...but was purported to occur only on judgement day. So all this is real?

Joviel: I guess so... but Pete faith in the Lord is different from Karma.

Pete: how so?

Joviel: Cos Karma says good will follow the good; bad will follow the bad. But good people still die; sometimes they hav to die first before bad people die. But the Lord did not say that good people cannot die painfully...innocently...

Joviel: Pete, i jus dont believe in Karma. i think its stupid. But Pete...i did not say that people who believe in it are stupid.