Saturday, March 25, 2006

My Philo Fren Ah Chong

Ah Chong says:
goodness is innate in a sense: we have the potentiality to be good
but to be good, the inborn potentiality to be good is not enough, for we need to know how to be good, and the reflective knowledge of what it is to be good
for example, even a good guy would be mistaken as bad if he do not know how to behave in a good way, ie. even though his intentions may be good, he may still act in a way so that others may think that he is evil
thus going to church and bible studies and all these things are ways to know how to *behave* so as to be make concrete the innate potentiality to be good

next, it is entirely dubious whether we can be truly good without knowing why what we are doing is good
if a person just do good because others tell him that a certain action is good without knowing and reflecting why it is good
then it is extremely dubious if the person is truly good
so, bible studies, prayer, and church etc can be seen as a *means* for us to fulfill our potential to be good
so it's something like a lens to focus the rays of light
sunlight cannot burn through paper on its own, but if the rays are focused by a lens, then it can burn through stuff
so even if u are good, that's not enough, u need the lens to focus and polish ur innate goodness
the main problem for christianity and u is that christianity maintains that it is the sole source of truth and goodness

Ah Chong continues:
i just remembered something, there's a passage in thessalonians where jesus says that his teachings are not the SOLE way to truth

same thing in buddhism, for buddhism you do not necessarily need to seek nirvana, worldly wealth and peace is also as good

in thessa, jesus asks his follows to question his teachings and not accept in faith
u look at jesus' character, does he look like a dictator to u?

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hmmmmmmmm i really need to look up on thessalonians....but of cos i need to read it in the context of the book also.
Thank you ah chong. This is very enlightening haha *wink*


And then Ah chong carries on to make a stupid joke. EXCUSE ME LOR!!! wat u mean by that!! hahahah...stupid cow...

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Ah Chong's lousy joke:
come on, where can u get an irreligious theist who knows the bible
i can tell a noble lie

can say something like: even though the bible is obviously not true, it teaches some extremely noble and good stuff
so even if anglie believes in some false shit, these false shit is allowing her to be a good person
anglie stinko, and eat bugs

Ah Chong becomes more serious:
yeah, and even the catholic church declares that one should not take it literally


abt the killing and the persecution,i ask you if the killings are a result of the political situation, or is a result of christianity itself
the main problem then is that there is no separation of politics and state, so the pope will join in the fun

yeah, jesus says that we should conquer the faithless, but conquer in what sense?
conquer using the force of reason and persuasion

if a dog does not bark and wag its tail, can u consider it a dog?
if a church does not follow the teachings of its founder, can it be considered a church of its founder?

since the pope does not follow the teachings of christ, then he is not a pope
the problem is with the frigging popoes of old, and not the teachings of christ

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